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Early Victorian Bate's Patent Saccharometer by Ludwig Oertling London

19th century
Description

For sale, an early Victorian Bate’s Patent Saccharometer by Ludwig Oertling London.

Contained within a mahogany case with a black felt fitted base and lid, this rare complete example is comprised of a brass saccharometer with scale marked 0 to 30. One side is minutely engraved with “Bates Patent” and the serial number 1354, whilst the other is engraved to the maker, L.Oertling, London. The loop at the base of the instrument is provided with a small hole for the fitting of individual weights.

Five original poises (weights) fit neatly around the scale arm within the case, and all are again marked with the same serial of 1354 at the base and then their various weights around the top edge.

Perhaps most pleasing is the existence of the original (and functioning) brass Fahrenheit scale thermometer with distinctive pad foot at the base and extendable hanging loop at the top. The side of the scale again engraved to the maker, L. Oertling.

The case is complete with its original hook and eye type fasteners and a bone cartouche to the lid stating:

“BATES’ SACCHAROMETER – L. OERTLING – MAKER TO THE INLAND REVENUE, LONDON”. It has the serial number of 1354 stamped to the top of the plate either side of the British Royal Coat of Arms.

An interesting example in terms of its age, its completeness and for the maker’s links to the originator of this type of saccharometer, Robert Brettell Bate. Bate’s full history is perhaps too long to provide full details for the purposes of explaining this instrument but can be found on numerous other examples of items contained within my website. He did, however, retain an effective monopoly on the provision of hydrometers and saccharometers to the government up until his death in 1847 and his company’s subsequent existence until 1850.

Ludwig Oertling arrived in the UK in 1844 having already trained as an instrument maker in Germany and by 1847 had established his own business at 12 Store Street in London. His primary skill was in the production of balances, and it is very likely that he either worked for, or supplied goods for resale to Bate during this early period. His work was already at this early stage of a suitably high standard that in 1851 he earned a prize medal at The Great Exhibition.

By this time, the Bate company had been dissolved but two of Bate’s workshop employees, Edward Ladd and John Streatfield had immediately formed a partnership using Bates workshop tools and had persuaded the Government to contract them. The partnership lasted until 1859 whereupon it was dissolved by mutual consent and in 1860, Edward Ladd and Ludwig Oertling formed a new partnership.

Advertising during the period provides a slightly ambiguous suggestion to their historic links:

“the long experience of Edward Wilds Ladd with the late RB Bate in the construction of hydrometers and a like experience on the part of Ludwig Oertling in the manufacture of balances.”

Whilst the above does not 100% prove Oertling’s earlier association with Bate, it is certain in 1864 that both Ladd & Oertling were both witnesses to Bate’s daughter’s will.

The partnership prospered until 1868 whereupon it was dissolved and Oertling continued to carve a reputation for fine balances of all kinds until his death in 1893. The company continued under family ownership until it was finally consumed by Avery in 1925, however the name continued to be applied to balances until the late Twentieth Century.

Exact dating of this fine and complete example is somewhat difficult, but a few indications can assist with attribution. Foremost is the mention of the Inland Revenue on the top of the case. The Inland Revenue was formed in 1848 by the amalgamation of the Board of Excise & The Board of Stamps and Taxes which provides firm confirmation of the earliest possible date of manufacture. Coupled with the closure of the Bate

Physical Dimensions
Height
4.5cm (1.77")
Width
20.5cm (8.07")
Depth
8cm (3.15")
Declaration

Jason Clarke Antiques has dated this Victorian Brass Saccharometer Set to the 1850s.

Reference Numbers
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SA957647
Description
For sale, an early Victorian Bate’s Patent Saccharometer by Ludwig Oertling London.
Contained within a mahogany case with a black felt fitted base and lid, this rare complete example is comprised of a brass saccharometer with scale marked 0 to 30.
Jason Clarke Antiques

One side is minutely engraved with “Bates Patent” and the serial number 1354, whilst the other is engraved to the maker, L.Oertling, London. The loop at the base of the instrument is provided with a small hole for the fitting of individual weights.

fig 1. An early Victorian Bates saccharometer set displayed alongside its fitted mahogany box, brass hydrometer stem, thermometer scale, and five poise weights.
fig 1. Early Victorian Bate's Patent Saccharometer by Ludwig Oertling London

Five original poises (weights) fit neatly around the scale arm within the case, and all are again marked with the same serial of 1354 at the base and then their various weights around the top edge.

Perhaps most pleasing is the existence of the original (and functioning) brass Fahrenheit scale thermometer with distinctive pad foot at the base and extendable hanging loop at the top. The side of the scale again engraved to the maker, L. Oertling.

fig 2. An early Victorian Bates saccharometer set displayed alongside its fitted mahogany box, brass hydrometer stem, thermometer scale, and five poise weights.
fig 2. Early Victorian Bate's Patent Saccharometer by Ludwig Oertling London

The case is complete with its original hook and eye type fasteners and a bone cartouche to the lid stating:

“BATES’ SACCHAROMETER – L. OERTLING – MAKER TO THE INLAND REVENUE, LONDON”. It has the serial number of 1354 stamped to the top of the plate either side of the British Royal Coat of Arms.

fig 3. An early Victorian Bates saccharometer set displayed alongside its fitted mahogany box, brass hydrometer stem, thermometer scale, and five poise weights.
fig 3. Early Victorian Bate's Patent Saccharometer by Ludwig Oertling London

An interesting example in terms of its age, its completeness and for the maker’s links to the originator of this type of saccharometer, Robert Brettell Bate. Bate’s full history is perhaps too long to provide full details for the purposes of explaining this instrument but can be found on numerous other examples of items contained within my website. He did, however, retain an effective monopoly on the provision of hydrometers and saccharometers to the government up until his death in 1847 and his company’s subsequent existence until 1850.

fig 4. An early Victorian Bates saccharometer set displayed alongside its fitted mahogany box, brass hydrometer stem, thermometer scale, and five poise weights.
fig 4. Early Victorian Bate's Patent Saccharometer by Ludwig Oertling London

Ludwig Oertling arrived in the UK in 1844 having already trained as an instrument maker in Germany and by 1847 had established his own business at 12 Store Street in London. His primary skill was in the production of balances, and it is very likely that he either worked for, or supplied goods for resale to Bate during this early period. His work was already at this early stage of a suitably high standard that in 1851 he earned a prize medal at The Great Exhibition.

fig 5. An early Victorian Bates saccharometer set displayed alongside its fitted mahogany box, brass hydrometer stem, thermometer scale, and five poise weights.
fig 5. Early Victorian Bate's Patent Saccharometer by Ludwig Oertling London

By this time, the Bate company had been dissolved but two of Bate’s workshop employees, Edward Ladd and John Streatfield had immediately formed a partnership using Bates workshop tools and had persuaded the Government to contract them. The partnership lasted until 1859 whereupon it was dissolved by mutual consent and in 1860, Edward Ladd and Ludwig Oertling formed a new partnership.

fig 6. An early Victorian Bates saccharometer set displayed alongside its fitted mahogany box, brass hydrometer stem, thermometer scale, and five poise weights.
fig 6. Early Victorian Bate's Patent Saccharometer by Ludwig Oertling London

Advertising during the period provides a slightly ambiguous suggestion to their historic links:

“the long experience of Edward Wilds Ladd with the late RB Bate in the construction of hydrometers and a like experience on the part of Ludwig Oertling in the manufacture of balances.”

fig 7. An early Victorian Bates saccharometer set displayed alongside its fitted mahogany box, brass hydrometer stem, thermometer scale, and five poise weights.
fig 7. Early Victorian Bate's Patent Saccharometer by Ludwig Oertling London

Whilst the above does not 100% prove Oertling’s earlier association with Bate, it is certain in 1864 that both Ladd & Oertling were both witnesses to Bate’s daughter’s will.

The partnership prospered until 1868 whereupon it was dissolved and Oertling continued to carve a reputation for fine balances of all kinds until his death in 1893. The company continued under family ownership until it was finally consumed by Avery in 1925, however the name continued to be applied to balances until the late Twentieth Century.

fig 8. An early Victorian Bates saccharometer set displayed alongside its fitted mahogany box, brass hydrometer stem, thermometer scale, and five poise weights.
fig 8. Early Victorian Bate's Patent Saccharometer by Ludwig Oertling London

Exact dating of this fine and complete example is somewhat difficult, but a few indications can assist with attribution. Foremost is the mention of the Inland Revenue on the top of the case. The Inland Revenue was formed in 1848 by the amalgamation of the Board of Excise & The Board of Stamps and Taxes which provides firm confirmation of the earliest possible date of manufacture. Coupled with the closure of the Bate

Height
4.5cm (1.77")
Width
20.5cm (8.07")
Depth
8cm (3.15")
Date of Manufacture

Jason Clarke Antiques has dated this Victorian Brass Saccharometer Set to the 1850s.

Reference Numbers
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Designed in the nineteenth century, a Bates saccharometer is a specialised hydrometer used primarily by brewers, distillers, and revenue officers to measure the sugar content and relative density of liquids before fermentation.

These scientific instruments were predominantly crafted from gilded or lacquered brass to resist chemical oxidisation, accompanied by lead or brass poise weights and housed inside custom-fitted mahogany storage cases.

Authentic pieces feature makers stamps, engraved manufacturer names, serial numbers, official excise verification marks, and hand-tailored mahogany boxes configured to hold each specific weight and gauge.

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